ESB 7: Musical Referee (Minutes 31-35 with Conor Power)

Film music PhD researcher Conor Power joins me for a discussion about The Empire Strikes Back minutes 31-35. We're finishing up the Battle of Hoth along with some shrill piccolos, rollicking pianos, an "extra minor" Luke theme, and a brass line that we both fancy for reasons we try to figure out. As the episode title suggests, the music in this cue seems to act like a referee keeping score between the Rebels and Empire (find out who the musical "winner" of these minutes is at the end of the episode). We also discuss the "Feminine Romantic Cliche" (FRC) as it pertains to Leia's theme and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Timestamps: 00:00 - Hello there! 02:44 - Ben Burtt's AT-AT sound design. 08:18 - The music acting as a referee. 14:51 - Piercing shrill piccolo. 22:55 - Foreshadowing the Asteroid Field. 24:16 - Comm voices match visual cuts. 25:51 - These pianos! ❤️ 34:27 - Luke's theme "extra minor." 42:44 - Stark, despondent Han and Leia scene. 45:12 - Why does this brass part stick out to us (in a good way)? 51:30 - Why the Force theme here? 1:03:08 - Tchaikovsky 4th Symphony + using spidey senses. 1:09:07 - Rebels gaining the upper hand (musically). 1:15:32 - Harry Potter comparison (joking chromatic string texture). 1:21:48 - Leia's theme and Feminine Romantic Cliche (FRC). 1:30:48 - Music + Millennium Falcon vroooom = perfection. 1:33:55 - "Captain Solo! Captain Solo!" Is Threepio's line doubled? 1:39:10 - Who actually wins the Battle of Hoth? 1:43:59 - ESB's more subtle dynamic between Han and Leia. 1:53:24 - Who wins the musical battle in these minutes? 1:54:17 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Dominic Sewell's analysis of 3M4/4M1 "Luke's First Crash" - https://youtu.be/dfKjTX7gpNs Tchaikovsky, Symphony No. 4, 1st movement - https://youtu.be/iE9LhoKEmBk Scherzo for X-Wings (John Williams) from Star Wars: The Force Awakens - https://youtu.be/xJzuanMUuS4 Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra (John Williams) from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - https://youtu.be/1IFmRniWa0U "Running to McGonagall" (John Williams) from Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone - https://youtu.be/T0SchcBWq7c ("Thinking about Marion's Theme") Art of the Score Episode 1: Raiders of the Lost Ark - Part 1 - https://www.artofthescore.com.au/podcast/2017/2/16/episode-1-raiders-of-the-lost-ark-part-1 Art of the Score Episode 2: Raiders of the Lost Ark - Part 2 - https://www.artofthescore.com.au/podcast/2017/2/16/episode-2-raiders-of-the-lost-ark-part-2 ANH 18: The Swashbucklers (Minutes 86-90 with Dan Golding) - https://youtu.be/5xFFLXruO0Y Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/. Cues: 3M4/4M1 "Luke's First Crash" 4M2 "The Rebels Escape Again" Musical Themes: 16b. Dark Side (Ostinato) 10a. Imperial March (Theme) 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 3. Force 2. Rebel Fanfare 10b. Imperial March (Bridge) 4. Leia Where are we in the soundtrack?: "The Battle Of Hoth (Ion Cannon/Imperial Walkers/Beneath the" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Vivid symphonic storytelling. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? Interviews with the orchestrators. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? If Beale Street Could Talk (by Nicholas Britell) --------------- Guest: Conor Power Twitter: https://twitter.com/cpower1997 (Article) Swashbucklers and Femme Fatales: Gender Coding in John Williams’s Score to Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - https://revista.uclm.es/index.php/cuadernosdeinvestigacionmusical/article/view/2830 ------------------ If you want to support the show and join the Discord server, consider becoming a patron!  https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: