Michael Lewis Updated

TALKING POLITICS - A podcast by David Runciman and Catherine Carr

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Another chance to hear the prophetic interview we recorded with Michael Lewis late last year, when he warned about the risks to us all of what the Trump presidency was doing to the capacity of the American state to cope with a disaster. David and Helen reflect on how that warning looks today and what it means for the fate of Trump's presidency and for the future of American politics. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy