Episode #2: Jason Goldman on Dune by Frank Herbert

Jason Goldman, one of the world's foremost Dune podcast pioneers, talks about all of the Dune books, all of the Dune movies, the Dune TV shows, democracy, institutions, the dangers of charismatic leaders, the (a)moral arc of technological progress, the potential of governing with data, and how so many technologists miss the point of the literature they love.