The Dialectical Primatologist: Dr. Nicholas Malone
That Anthro Podcast - A podcast by Gabriella Campbell

Welcome to the podcast Dr. Nicholas Malone, primatologist, evolutionary anthropologist, now not so secret surfer, and lecturer at The University of Auckland! Dr. Malone was a super fun guest to interview and on this episode we dive into a wide variety of topics including his favorite classes to teach, the inspiration for his new book title "The Dialectical Primatologist," as well as his advice to students. We talk his time studying endangered primates being sold in public markets of Java and his work there with Javan Gibbons. His time spent on Java during his PhD influenced him to continue work on Java, unlike a lot of other primatologists studying monkeys on other Indonesian Islands. Dr. Malone completed his MS at Central Washington University under the mentorship of Dr. Agustin Fuentes, and then his PhD with Joanna Lambert at the University of Oregon continuing to work in Indonesia. For his post-doc he went to the Congo to study Bonobos which he describes as a period of personal and professional growth. He talks about journalling and ethnography in the field and the role they play in his work and specifically his writing. We also talk about his recent book, his writing process, influences including the 1985 book The Dialectical Biologist, and the unifying question of the book. Check out Dr. Malone’s new book HERE: https://www.routledge.com/The-Dialectical-Primatologist-The-Past-Present-and-Future-of-Life-in-the/Malone/p/book/9780367211325 FOLLOW: @thatanthropodcast on Instagram @ThatAnthroPod on Twitter Brought to you in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association check out their podcast library here https://www.americananthro.org/StayInformed/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=1629