#5 John P. Carlin, are we seeing the dawn of a Code War?

The Americans - A podcast by Chelsea Spieker

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We’re venturing into a parallel world - one that only exists in the shadows. Into the world of bits and bytes - into cyberspace. It’s a realm where war is being waged every day, says my guest today. We’re meeting John P. Carlin, former Assistant Attorney General for the U.S. Department of Justice's National Security Division under Barack Obama. In that role, he and his 400 employees were responsible for protecting the United States from terrorism, espionage, cyber risks and other national security threats. Prior to assuming his role in the National Security Division, Carlin served as Chief of Staff and Senior Counsel to Robert S. Mueller, III, former director of the FBI. Carlin offers deeper insight into this matter than any cybersecurity expert ever before - a man who can shed some light on this hidden world.