151 Who Decides What Ultralight Is?

The Backpacking Podcast presented by Outdoor Vitals - A podcast by John Kelley, Jeremiah Stringer - Thursdays

JK and Jeremiah discuss what it takes to get to that allusive title of "ultralight" while still disagreeing on the merits of Chick-Fil-A and whether or not Jeremiah is buying what JK is selling.