Mark Leibovich: DeSantis Is Not the Savior

Republicans are big mad about Herschel's loss, but they won't name the guy who got this production off the ground. Meanwhile, low-energy Trump is plotting how to take out the charmless but ruthless DeSantis. Mark Leibovich joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices