The Country 19/12/23: Damien O'Connor talks to Jamie Mackay

We wrap the year with a man who started as Minister for Agriculture, Trade, Biosecurity and Land Information and finished it as opposition spokesperson for trade. Today we talk about an FTA with India, the ease (or lack of) of doing business in New Zealand, life after having your feet under the Treasury benches, and living with Grant’s huge fiscal hole.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.