Succession’s Brian Cox and Alan Ruck

“Both he and I are disappointed in the human experiment.” Brian Cox talks about how he relates to his HBO “Succession” character, Logan Roy, but explains why he chooses to be optimistic about society’s ability to do better. Then "Succession" star,  Alan Ruck, discusses the show's widely anticipated final season, his character's laughably sad arc, and what the series has taught him about life at the top of the food chain. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.