The thin blue line: why are relations between police and black youths just so bad?

On the podcast this week, a former police officer gives his take on why black youths loathe the police (01:05); we discuss why Downing Street would prefer Joe Biden to win (17:25); and will anything really change after the pandemic? (30:50). With former Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Kevin Hurley; campaigner Katrina Ffrench; the Spectator's Political Editor James Forsyth; the Spectator's Economics Correspondent Kate Andrews; and our columnists Matthew Parris and Rory Sutherland. Presented by Cindy Yu. Produced by Cindy Yu and Beth Stamp. Click here to try 12 weeks of the Spectator for £12 and get a free £20 Amazon gift voucher.