89/ Tiananmen, Denialism and History (With Mia Wong)
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This is a conversation with Mia Wong, a writer and researcher with Cool Zone Media whose essay "When communists crushed the international workers’ movement" for Lausan was the subject of this conversation. Get early access + more perks on Patreon.com/firethesetimes Blog: https://thefirethisti.me You can follow on Twitter or Instagram @ firethesetimes too. Topics Discussed: The Tiananmen massacre in its historical context The meaning of Tiananmen How we remember Tiananmen and what we erase The before and the after The cost of denialism Tiananmen/Syria comparisons Occupying the squares vs occupying the factories On class identities How could it have been different? Aesthetics and politics Burying the past On tankies Recommended Books: Rhythms of the Pachakuti: Indigenous Uprising and State Power in Bolivia by Raquel Gutiérrez Aguilar The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy by David Graeber Carbon Democracy: Political Power in the Age of Oil by Timothy Mitchell Hatta Shūzō and Pure Anarchism in Interwar Japan by John Crump + I recommended Anarchist Modernity: Cooperatism and Japanese-Russian Intellectual Relations in Modern Japan by Sho Konishi