#091 Peter Atwater On The Troubling Disconnect Between Main Street & Wall Street
The Julia La Roche Show - A podcast by Julia La Roche

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On episode 91, Julia La Roche is joined by Peter Atwater, an adjunct professor of economics at William & Mary, and author of "The Confidence Map: Charting a Path from Chaos to Clarity". Atwater explains how confidence is the real "invisible hand" in our economy, markets, and everyday lives. He also shares his concern about the divergent economy, where billionaire confidence is soaring while a large population feels left behind, not only in the US but also in other countries. Atwater is the first who shared the notion of a K-shaped recovery in the economy. Links: The Confidence Map: https://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Map-Charting-Chaos-Clarity/dp/0593539559/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Peter_Atwater LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-atwater-08467034/ Peter’s website: https://peteratwater.com/ 0:00 Intro / Background 2:48 Psychology of investor decision-making and economic decision-making 3:35 Behavioral economists typically focus on what we do wrong 4:30 The role of confidence 6:40 Confidence Quadrant framework 10:00 Application of the Confidence Quadrant on macro/micro level 13:00 Executives discussing AI 14:47 Investors are in the “comfort zone” on the Confidence Quadrant 15:35 The K-shaped recovery 17:48 If markets were to price in Main Street sentiment they would considerably lower 18:30 Two different sets of moods and preferences 20:30 Assessment of the current state of America today 24:00 Evaluating consumer confidence and the 2016 election 28:00 Gen Z’s confidence? 31:00 Millennials’ sentiment 33:00 Real life moves us around 35:00 Music and the mood 38:00 Taylor Swift phenomenon 39:30 Peak confidence? 40:30 Mania in the Magnificent Seven 41:15 Passive investing puts investors in the “passenger seat” 44:00 Elon Musk is the “Kevin Bacon” of every popular investment theme 47:20 Media is the “mirror of mood” 50:30 Why confidence is the real “invisible hands” 53:00 Best indicator of an upcoming recession 55:00 Bidenomics is another sentiment indicator