Ryan Grim, Phyllis Bennis & Dems' Ukraine Cave

I talk to Ryan Grim, The Intercept’s D.C. Bureau Chief, about how the Democrats wrote Biden a letter on Ukraine, then walked it back and then actually blamed their staffers for releasing it in the first place. Then we're joined by Phyllis Bennis to talk about why negotiation and diplomacy is more important than ever. ***Please support The Katie Halper Show *** For bonus content, to support independent media and to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon at -https://www.patreon.com/thekatiehalpershow Follow Katie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kthalps