ESG data is chaos... but is that bad?

A study last year by Sakis Kotsantonis of KKS Advisors and Professor George Serafeim suggest the ESG data landscape is chaos, and companies need to own their ESG narrative until it gets regulated. But is chaos a bad thing? And are we setting the bar higher for ESG than "old finance"? Sakis and Damion Rallis of the Business Pants podcast join the Market Medium for a story of data and standards.