The Problem Isn’t Biden or Trump. It’s How America Keeps Secrets.

The media is chasing the classified documents fiasco like it’s spy vs. spy, Trump vs. Biden. But on this week’s episode, we’re breaking down the absurdity of a national security system that makes it so darn easy to hoard classified documents. We’re joined by Matthew Connelly, professor of history at Columbia and author of The Declassification Engine: What History Reveals About America’s Top Secrets. He gives us the inside scoop on how unwieldy our system for keeping state secrets has become, who it’s really designed to protect, and how we might revamp it so that it can actually, you know, keep a secret. Plus, writers Jay Jurden and Robby Slowik run through the documents the FBI found at Pence’s house—and why they’re going to make Mother very angry.  Season 2 is now streaming on Apple TV+. CREDITS
Hosted by: Jon Stewart  Featuring, in order of appearance: Robby Slowik, Jay Jurden, Matthew Connelly  Executive Produced by Jon Stewart, Brinda Adhikari, James Dixon, Chris McShane, and Richard Plepler Lead Producer: Sophie Erickson Producers: Zach Goldbaum, Caity Gray Assoc. Producer: Andrea Betanzos  Sound Engineer: Miguel Carrascal Senior Digital Producer: Freddie Morgan Digital Producer: Cassie Murdoch Digital Coordinator: Norma Hernandez Supervising Producer: Lorrie Baranek Head Writer: Kris Acimovic Elements Producer: Kenneth Hull Clearances Producer: Daniella Philipson Senior Talent Producer: Brittany Mehmedovic Talent Manager: Marjorie McCurry Talent Coordinator: Lukas Thimm Senior Research Producer: Susan Helvenston  Theme Music by: Gary Clark Jr. The Problem with Jon Stewart podcast is an Apple TV+ podcast, produced by Busboy Productions.  https://apple.co/-JonStewart