No New Episode Today!

We were planning another episode about Karens for this week, but we need a bit more time to get it right! As we figure it out, we're going to continue with some other episodes we've had in the works. Next week, join us to hear Casper talk about leisure and relaxation. We'll be circling back to Karens in the near future. Thank you so much for your patience!  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.