Inside the government machine

Matt Chorley is joined by Lord O'Donnell, the former cabinet secretary, David Gauke, the former cabinet minister, and Polly Mackenzie, the former No10 policy adviser, to ask if Whitehall is broken, who really has control, and if Dominic Cummings is right that the civil service needs more weirdos. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.