'Joker' gives a comic book villain a grown-up, nihilistic spin

The Envelope - A podcast by Los Angeles Times - Thursdays

Times film staff discuss "Joker" and the controversy around the movie. Plus, in our new culture news segment, host Mark Olsen discusses the impeachment inquiry's impact on late-night TV, and Glenn Whipp shares his thoughts about "The Irishman" in our new 'awards minute' segment.