Inside the Driscoll “Cult” Part II

The Roys Report - A podcast by Julie Roys

Guest Bios Show Transcript https://youtu.be/WOaB7w1zBSkFrom his shuttered church in Seattle to his “cult” in Arizona, author and celebrity pastor Mark Driscoll has taken pastoral entitlement, bullying, and control to new lows. Even after Part 1 of Inside the Driscoll “Cult,” two former members of Driscoll’s security detail have much more to share.  On this edition of The Roys Report, Chad Freese, the former head of security at The Trinity Church, and his former colleague, Ben Eneas, reveal more details about the cult of personality and family business that Driscoll has cultivated. In a bizarre example, Chad and Ben share how staff members, and even church parishioners, are covertly rated on their loyalty to Mark Driscoll. They also give a behind-the-scenes look at the Christian executive who runs the business operations at the church—and the crazy things he instructs church staff to do. Chad and Ben also tell about the celebrity pastors that continue to platform Driscoll. And in this episode, you’ll discover why the problem of Mark Driscoll is not an isolated story of a single abusive and self-serving pastor. It’s a story that once again exposes the devastation caused by the evangelical industrial complex or celebrity machine. This Weeks Guests Chad Freese Chad Freese served as head of security at the Trinity Church. Chad also is an advanced information systems and cybersecurity professional. He's a retired Chief Warrant Officer with the US Marine Corps and he's happily married with two teenage daughters. Benjamin Eneas Benjamin Eneas is a Romanian-born immigrant to America. He is a project manager by trade and currently works at a utility company. Benjamin has been happily married for 20 years and has two daughters. Show Transcript SPEAKERSMARK DRISCOLL, JULIE ROYS, BENJAMIN ENEAS, CHAD FREESE JULIE ROYS According to Mark Driscoll, The Trinity Church in Scottsdale, Arizona, is all about Jesus. But insiders say that’s not true. It’s all about Mark—and control and money.Welcome to The Roys Report—a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I’m Julie Roys.And joining me for part two of Inside The Driscoll Cult are Chad Freese, the former head of security at The Trinity Church—and Ben Eneas, a former member of Trinity’s security detail.Chad and Ben say Trinity is not a church; it’s a cult. And in this episode, you’ll hear about the spectrum of trust. This is a scale that Mark Driscoll uses to rate staff and members.You’ll also hear about the web of celebrity pastors that run cover for Driscoll and platform his ministry. And you’ll hear some crazy stories—like the time the man providing wise counsel for Trinity instructed Chad to pay parking tickets with gift cards likely donated for single moms.But before we dive in, I’d like to thank the sponsors of this podcast, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington.Judson is a top-ranked Christian University providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities, and strong financial aid. Judson University is “Shaping Lives that Shape the World.” For more information, just go to JUDSONU.EDU.Also, if you’re looking for a quality new or used car, I highly recommend my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity, and transparency. That’s because the owners there—Dan and Kurt Marquardt—are men of integrity. To check them out, just go to BuyACar123.com.Well again, joining me today is Chad Freese, a retired marine and former head of security for The Trinity Church. Also joining me is Ben Eneas, a former member of the security team at the Trinity Church. We pick up our discussion with the question of govern