Jennifer Shahade on chess, poker, and podcasting
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Jennifer Shahade is a 2 time US Women’s Chess Champion, she’s a PokerStars ambassador. She is also an author, speaker, and host of The Grid, which received the award for the best poker podcast this year. We started off by discussing the Netflix series The Queen’s Gambit, and what made it click for the wider audience. We talked about how games like chess and poker mold us – what we learn from these games, and what makes them beautiful. We also talk about Jennifer’s own podcast, its underlying idea, and where she’s going with it. Connect to Jennifer: Twitter: https://twitter.com/JenShahade Web: https://jennifershahade.com/ Podcast: https://thepokergrid.com CONNECT: Subscribe to this channel: https://bit.ly/runchuks-yt Subscribe to newsletter: https://www.runchukspodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/RunchuksP Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/runchukspoker Coaching: https://bit.ly/bts-coaching PODCAST INFO: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2XlvTro Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2ECWIAF YouTube playlist: https://bit.ly/podcast-yt OUTLINE: 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:51 The Queen's Gambit 00:09:15 The chess boom 00:11:01 What chess teaches us about life 00:22:34 Learn to lose 00:29:51 A privilege or a curse 00:34:25 Garry Kasparov on The Queen's Gambit 00:39:59 The next big poker movie 00:43:46 Community and culture 00:48:17 Women in chess 00:52:48 What makes a movie appealing to a wider audience 00:58:47 Molly's Game 01:00:00 Getting stuck in the game - a blessing or a curse 01:06:08 Achieving balance 01:07:44 Sticking with the game because of sunk cost 01:13:26 Teaching chess 01:17:51 What makes chess beautiful? 01:24:03 Limited time to make a decision 01:28:51 Memorization and pattern recognition 01:32:17 Chess end-game and poker river 01:35:20 Is poker beautiful? 01:40:38 The Poker Grid podcast 01:49:41 Favorite podcasts 01:54:06 Learning from the guests 01:59:57 169 hands 02:08:01 Choosing guests 02:14:21 Having fun 02:18:36 Blindfold chess 02:21:13 The goal of The Poker Grid If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like my conversation with GM Vladimir Kramnik (14th World Chess Champion) - https://youtu.be/EF926Piiumo