Pop Culture Can Help the Climate w/ Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Sam sits down with author and marine biologist Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to explore her inspiring new book, What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures. Dr. Johnson offers a refreshing take on the climate crisis, imagining a future shaped by Hollywood, pop culture, poetry, and joy. Together, they discuss how creativity and optimism can help us reframe environmental challenges and inspire collective action.   Sign up for Sam’s Newsletter to get behind the scenes stuff from every interview each week.   The Sam Sanders show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.