Burger Royalty

Live from Durham, NC, Greg and Sother sit down with Sean Umstead and Michelle Vanderwalker of Kingfisher, QueenBurger, and Queeny’s to talk about building a bar, a cocktail program, and a brand outside of a major market city, designing a hand-crafted tile bartop, and of course, the great burger pivot over the early 2020s. Plus, ChatGPT has now passed level three of the master somm exam - what does that mean for everyone who’s been leaning on that resume line? And, The Speakeasy welcomes its youngest ever guest - Michelle’s son, Claude, who’s only two decades and seven months away from the legal drinking age.