Psychological Abuse as a Trope in BL

TRIGGER WARNING:  if talk of emotional abuse and manipulation isn't your thing, you get a pass to hang out with a cookie and some juice and sit this one out.  In this episode, hosts AuthorCarola and AichiYume talk about psychological abuse as a trope in BL and yaoi: why it happens, can it ever be good (in fiction) and if its so bad, why do we keep coming back to such a painful subject for many readers.