Joscha Bach Λ Ben Goertzel: Conscious Ai, LLMs, AGI

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YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw7omaQ8SgA Joscha Bach meets with Ben Goertzel to discuss cognitive architectures, AGI, and conscious computers in another theolocution on TOE. - Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!) - Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... - Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b9... - Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeveryt... - TOE Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch LINKS MENTIONED: - OpenCog (Ben's Ai company): https://opencog.org - SingularityNET (Ben's Decentralized Ai company): https://singularitynet.io - Podcast w/ Joscha Bach on TOE: https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI - Podcast w/ Ben Goertzel on TOE: https://youtu.be/27zHyw_oHSI - Podcast w/ Michael Levin and Joscha on TOE: https://youtu.be/kgMFnfB5E_A - Podcast w/ John Vervaeke and Joscha on TOE: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4 - Podcast w/ Donald Hoffman and Joscha on TOE: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 Introduction - 00:02:23 Computation vs Awareness - 00:06:11 The paradox of language and self-contradiction - 00:10:05 The metaphysical categories of Charles Peirce - 00:13:00 Zen Buddhism's category of zero - 00:14:18 Carl Jung's interpretation of four - 00:21:22 Language as "representation" - 00:28:48 Computational reality vs AGI - 00:33:06 Consciousness in particles - 00:44:18 Anesthesia and consciousness: Joscha's personal perspective - 00:54:36 Levels of consciousness levels (panpsychism vs functionalism) - 00:56:23 Deep neural nets & LLMs as steps backward from AGI? - 01:05:04 Emergent properties of LLMs - 01:12:26 Turing-completeness and its implications - 01:15:08 OpenAI's bold claims challenged - 01:24:24 Future of AGI - 01:31:58 Intelligent species after human extinction - 01:36:33 Emergence of a cosmic mind - 01:43:56 The timeline to AGI development - 01:52:16 The physics of immortality - 01:54:00 Critique of Integrated Information Theory (pseudoscience?)