Inside OpenAI's First Venture Round (Khosla), AI Leaderboards, and Regulatory Chess Games

"This Won't Last" with Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg - A podcast by Turpentine, Keith Rabois, Logan Bartlett, Zach Weinberg, Kevin Ryan

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This is the second episode of This Won’t Last. The show is a monthly conversation between Logan Bartlett of Redpoint, Keith Rabois at Khosla Ventures, Kevin Ryan at Alleycorp, and Zach Weinberg, biotech founder (Curie.Bio) and investor. This episode covers Khosla’s initial investment into OpenAI, runaway AI CapEx, long-term AI leaderboards, and regulatory implications in AI. This Won't Last is part of the Turpentine podcast network. -- 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse. -- Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast https://www.youtube.com/@theloganbartlettshow -- 𝕏 https://x.com/thiswontlast https://x.com/rabois https://x.com/loganbartlett https://x.com/kevinryan https://x.com/zachweinberg https://x.com/Redpoint https://x.com/turpentinemedia -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Unpack Pricing Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg -- Links: OpenAI and Anthropic revenue data: https://www.tanayj.com/p/openai-and-anthropic-revenue-breakdown Anthropic CEO on future $10B model: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/dario-amodei Hardware costs in Scaling AI: https://fortune.com/2024/04/04/ai-training-costs-how-much-is-too-much-openai-gpt-anthropic-microsoft/ Comparing Quality/Speed/Price of AI models: https://artificialanalysis.ai/ CA banning election deep fakes on social media: https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/californias-5-new-ai-laws-crack-down-on-election-deepfakes-and-actor-clones/ Life expectancy relative to spending in Healthcare: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health-expenditure -- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:39) Show origins (02:39) OpenAI funding, Khosla’s initial investment (06:40) Talent shortage and power law engineers (11:47) Engineer tenure at startups (15:12) OpenAI metrics (19:26) AI CapEx (25:01) Zach’s Pixel vs iPhone (25:36) OpenAI vs Perplexity and Google (32:03) Safety concerns in AI (40:38) Misinformation regulation (46:38) Regulations in healthcare (48:44) Gambling regulations (58:49) Hidden downsides of regulations (01:03:59) Individual responsibilities (01:13:33) Closing