The Pope We Need - Fr. Michael DeSaye 04-28-25
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SummaryFr. Michael DeSaye examines the current division in the Novus Ordo Church between “liberal” and “conservative” camps, both of which ultimately accept Vatican II and thus belong to a new, false religion.Liberals openly acknowledge Vatican II as a rupture from pre–Vatican II Catholicism and embrace its modernist trajectory (abolition of celibacy, women’s ordination, normalization of sodomy, etc.).Conservatives try to reconcile Vatican II with Tradition, keeping many external devotions and disciplines, but refusing to reject the council’s condemned errors.Both positions, he argues, are heretical because Vatican II departs from the perennial Catholic Faith in its doctrines on ecumenism, salvation outside the Church, collegiality, and religious liberty—all previously condemned by the Magisterium.He concludes that the Pope’s duty is to safeguard the Catholic Faith, which Vatican II undermines, making its promoters—liberal or conservative—unfit to hold office. The faithful must reject Vatican II entirely, remain with the true Faith and sacraments, and pray for an end to the crisis.Key Quotes“If a religion has different teachings, different worship, or different authority… what you have there is a different religion.”“To adhere to [Vatican II’s doctrines] is to adhere to condemned errors, and thus… to forfeit the Catholic Faith.”“Ascent to Vatican II produces faithlessness… In the liberal camp we find heretics, and in the conservative camp we find heretics.”“The pope we need today needs to align himself with the apostles… in condemning Vatican II.”“Until that time comes, we will have nothing to do with them. We will go to where the true Faith is preached… at whatever sacrifice is required.”Key Points & TakeawaysDefinition of Religion – A religion is defined by its teachings, worship, and authority; change any of these substantially and you have a different religion.Doctrinal Break – Vatican II contradicts prior Magisterial teaching in four main areas:Ecumenism (Pius XI condemned)Salvation outside the Church (condemned by numerous popes)Collegiality (Pius XII condemned)Religious liberty (condemned by many popes)Liberal Honesty & Modernism – Liberals admit Vatican II is a rupture but embrace it as “religious evolution,” a heresy condemned by St. Pius X.Conservative Denial – Conservatives insist Vatican II is in continuity, but ignore or downplay doctrinal contradictions, leading to eventual acceptance of error.The Papal Office – A true pope must safeguard the Faith and reject error; anyone promoting Vatican II is unfit to be pope.Faithful Response – Catholics must reject Vatican II completely, avoid its false sacraments, and remain with priests and chapels that preserve the true Faith.ConclusionFr. DeSaye rejects both “liberal” and “conservative” Novus Ordo camps as heretical because both accept Vatican II’s condemned doctrines. Only total repudiation of Vatican II aligns with the apostolic Faith. The crisis will end when a pope completely uninfluenced by Vatican II restores the Catholic Faith, worship, and discipline. Until then, the faithful must avoid false shepherds, seek the true sacraments, and endure the crisis in fidelity to Tradition.Commentary from a Sedevacantist, Pre–Vatican II Catholic PerspectiveFr. DeSaye’s homily correctly applies pre–Vatican II theological principles:Heresy & Loss of Office – By canon law and the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, public heretics cannot hold ecclesiastical office, including the papacy. This aligns with St. Robert Bellarmine (De Romano Pontifice, II.30) and Pope Paul IV (Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio).Incompatibility of Vatican II with Catholicism – The four points he highlights (ecumenism, salvation outside the Church, collegiality, religious liberty) were definitively condemned; to affirm them is to reject the Magisterium’s infallibility and the indefectibility of the Church.Necessity of Separation – True Catholics cannot assist at Masses or receive sacraments from those publicly adhering to a false religion (cf. Canon 1258 §1, pre-1983 Code).The Papal Mandate – The First Vatican Council (Pastor Aeternus) declares the Pope’s role is to guard, not alter, the deposit of faith. Any claimant contradicting this is not a true pope.Hope in Restoration – The Church will be restored, but only when the Vatican II religion is utterly rejected and the Apostolic Faith fully restored in doctrine, liturgy, and governance.In short, this is an unambiguous reaffirmation that Vatican II is not merely a “bad council” in need of “reinterpretation,” but the formal charter of a counterfeit religion. True Catholics must have nothing to do with it or its adherents.TrueCatholicFaith.com