Peaceful People, Peaceful Dogs with Julie Cluley

Our state of mind can affect those around us, including our pets. Julie Cluley teaches dog owners to listen to what their dogs are saying, and she also coaches those who are dealing with anxiety and its ripple affects. I was fascinated by the potential cross-over of these two subjects, and couldn’t wait to talk to Julie. Our conversation did not disappoint.In September 2018 Julie Cluley bumped into Nicola Bird’s website and the Three Principles. Her experience of life changed almost overnight. She now lives life from a much calmer, more relaxed and joyful place. The best thing is that nothing actually changed. She still has the same lovely husband, same gorgeous kids and the same amazing job. Julie coaches dog owners to have more harmonious, peaceful dogs, and also coaches humans to connect with their innate sense of peace and well-being.You can find Julie Cluley at JulieHelpsYouHelpYourDog.co.uk and on Instagram @juliecluleyhelps.You can listen above, on your favorite podcast app, or watch on YouTube. Notes, links, resources and a full transcript are below. Show Notes* Stumbling across the 3 Principles when dealing with overwhelm and burnout * Working with anxious dog owners vs. owners of anxious dogs * How our state of mind can affect our dogs * How there is always less for us to do that we imagine * How we can really stir up our thinking the way you shake a snow globe * Tips for those who might be anxious around dogsResources Mentioned in this Episode* Julie’s Peaceful Paws course and community * Nicola BirdTranscript of Interview with Julie CluleyAlexandra: Julie Cluley, welcome to unbroken.Julie: Thank you. Lovely to be here.Alexandra: It’s so great to have you.Let’s begin with you telling us about a little bit about your background and how you came to find the principles.Julie: Okay, so my knowledge of the principles has been since about 2018. I came across the principles, one of these Facebook ads that pops up. It was Nicola Bird, who you’ve maybe heard of. was on that video. And just one of those moments, where you’re like, Whoa, what? I was like, Oh, interesting. At that time, I was struggling with, I guess you could say anxiety, burnout overwhelm, that thing. I was being told it was all my hormones, and all of that stuff and offered various things, from HRT to antidepressants to all kinds of things that just didn’t sit that well with me. So I was resisting that. But getting a bit desperate. I just came across that video and downloaded, I think, originally, like a six week course, online course. And then something else. And quite quickly, I just knew I was like, Oh, my God, this is like this changes everything. And very quickly, actually started to feel a lot better. Within a year, think a year or two, maybe a year, I signed up for her coaching program to become practitioner. So I did that. And qualified in that it was April 2020.I was a dog behavior coach since 2006. So like, 18 years. I’ve been doing that just that was fine. It was great. Really enjoyed it. Did that along with having my kids. And so I was juggling work, kids, that thing. And then I added in practitioners thing as well. And then since COVID, things have evolved quite differently. combined the two in the online world.Alexandra: Oh, fascinating. And before you found the principles,