Episode 52: Defining Pandemics, and Mikheil Saakashvili's Ukrainian Comeback
Undercurrents - A podcast by Chatham House

This week, Ben speaks to Charles Clift from the Global Health Programme about the WHO's communication challenges around the coronavirus. They explore how pandemics are defined, and the implications of when the announcement was made. Then Agnes meets Max Fras to find out how former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has gained political office in Ukraine. Read the Expert Comments: Coronavirus: Public Health Emergency or Pandemic - Does Timing Matter? WHO Can Do Better - But Halting Funding is No Answer Credits: Speakers: Charles Clift, Max Fras Hosts: Agnes Frimston, Ben Horton Sound Editor: Jamie Reed Producer: Ben Horton Recorded and produced at Chatham House.