Max & Sam: The Pac-12's best team is? + Penn State deep dive with Audrey Snyder

(Timestamps/links in notes) Max and Sam are joined by The Athletic's Penn State scribe Audrey Snyder on today's show! Audrey shares her thoughts about all things Penn State, including Drew Allar, the surprisingly good defense, if the Nittany Lions are good enough to beat OSU and/or Michigan, and, on an unrelated but fun note, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce! The guys also discuss the Pac-12 heirarchy, and they re-draft their pre-season Heisman picks. Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Rundown: -The Pac-12 race to the top (5:00) -USC might be the third-best team in the conference (15:00) -Audrey discusses Iowa-Penn State (20:00) -Penn State stop rate ranking/defense (23:00) -Evaluating Drew Allar through four weeks (27:30) -Skill position players (32:00) -Can Penn State beat Ohio State and/or Michigan? (35:00) -Big Ten big picture + Swelce? Kelift? (37:30) -Heisman re-draft (50:30) -4th down analytics presented by Invesco QQQ (1:02:15) Follow Max on Twitter: @max_olson Follow Sam on Twitter: @skhanjr Follow Audrey on Twitter: @audsnyder4 Sponsored by: Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/saturday and get on your way to being your best self. LinkedIn: LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at linkedIn.com/CFB23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices