In Seventh Heaven with Ben Levin

Jay and Matthew (Those Timeless Creatives) tackle sisterhood, global warming, and the value of human life. YouTuber and musician Ben Levin joins them for a spirited discussion about the relative merits of travel and music. Subscribe to patreon.com/thosetimelesscreatives for the extended ep, which includes an in-depth look at the crap that goes down in the sack when people hook up at last. For more Levin, check out Office Hours' just-released Drop Concert, directed by Ben Levin himself.