E60: AI in the Techno-Economic War with China with Vinod Khosla, Todd Young, and Jacob Helberg

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In this episode of Upstream, we're publishing a session recorded live at The Hill & Valley Forum in May 2024 hosted by Jacob Helberg, and featuring Vinod Khosla of Khosla Ventures, and Senator Todd Young (R-IN). Khosla and Young dive straight into the most pressing national security concerns regarding the threat of AI. In this techno-economic race, the winner will have economic and military control over Southeast Asia, Africa and Latin America. AI is a technology capable of that much influence is described as being comparable to an atomic bomb. If AI is viewed through the lens of an atomic bomb, should the U.S. be forming a new Manhattan Project? Would you open source the Manhattan Project? šŸ”„ Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network:Ā https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj The HIll & Valley Podcast is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Catch all the 2024 Forum sessions and subscribe: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/39s4MCyt1pOTQ8FjOAS4mi Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hill-valley/id1692653857 -- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture ā€” all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. Weā€™re launching new shows every week, and weā€™re looking for industry-leading sponsors ā€” if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected]. -- SPONSORS: BEEHIIV |. SQUAD Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. šŸ Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months. šŸ’„ Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention ā€œTurpentineā€ to skip the waitlist. -- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) The Urgency of AI in the Techno-Economic War (01:13) Exploring AI's Role in Modern Warfare and Global Influence (08:33) Sponsor: Beehiiv | Squad (11:34) The Global AI Supply Chain and National Security Concerns (17:23) Open Source vs. Closed Model Debate in AI Development (22:26) Closing Remarks