Ethel Cain Learns About NXIVM

This week, singer-songwriter and all-around southern bell Ethel Cain joins host Mathias Rosenzweig to learn about cults, specifically NXIVM. Ex-member and current actress/podcaster Sarah Edmondson (of the "A Little Bit Culty" podcast) discusses the moments in which she became suspicious of what she believed to be a personal and professional development company that, ultimately, left several members branded with the founders' initials, plus answers a few more questions, such as: how does one get deprogrammed after leaving a cult? Why do people wind up joining cults in the first place? And what are they key differences between a cult and a religion?  V WANNA KNOW is hosted by Mathias Rosenzweig It's hosted and produced by Ryan Killian Krause and Mathias Rosenzweig Our editors are Citizens of Sound