Politics Thursday: Ayesha Verrall and Tim Costley talk unemployment, energy shortage and maths

The latest unemployment figures are out with those looking for work reaching 4.6%. How desperate is the public for an interest rate cut now?  And who's to blame for the country's energy shortage, and how do we solve it? Those were the questions for the politics panel this week, with Labour's Health and Wellington issues spokesperson Ayesha Verrall and National's Otaki MP Tim Costley.  LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.