Bonus Ep 1: Freyja Eilíf
Why Not Both - A podcast by Pam Shaffer

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This episode was first available to Patreon supporters. If you'd like to hear about more magical creators, please join us. Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. For our first bonus episode of Why Not Both, we traveled back in time and space to chat with our good friend Freyja Eilif, a magical artist and creator in Reykjavik, Iceland. We spent the afternoon together in The Museum of Perceptive Art, a space that Freyja created to host curators and artists alike and assist them on not only their creative journeys but to facilitate their existential healing as well. Freyja remarked that the best way to explore the future is to experiment with the physical world through the lessons of the ancient past and we can't possibly think of a more profound way to express our own journey as we rush to meet ourselves. Thanks again for listening! Make sure to subscribe, leave us a nice review, and hang out with us on Insta and Twitter.