Ep 17: Rob Graves
Why Not Both - A podcast by Pam Shaffer

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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer. For our second season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. For this special leap year episode, Grammy nominated producer and writer Rob Graves shares the intimate process behind his stunning new album Solstice. Inspired by the untamed wilderness of Iceland, Rob’s songs speak to landscapes—both physical and emotional. Join us as we talk music, success, and his fascination with the very nature of creativity (Spoiler: no one can give you permission to be creative but yourself). Make sure you take a listen to Solstice out now. Thanks again for listening! Make sure to subscribe, leave us a nice review, and hang out with us on Insta and Twitter.