12 Episodes

  1. Frank Ocean's "Blonde" with Sam Sanders

    Published: 7/10/2025
  2. The Strokes' "Is This It?" with Jack Coyne

    Published: 6/10/2025
  3. Lana Del Rey's "Norman F***ing Rockwell" with Avery Trufelman

    Published: 5/23/2025
  4. Pavement's "Slanted and Enchanted" with Yasi Salek

    Published: 5/2/2025
  5. Joni Mitchell's "Court and Spark" with Tim Heidecker

    Published: 4/18/2025
  6. Is Craig's New Record A Summer Album Or Winter Album?! (Rapid Fire)

    Published: 4/14/2025
  7. Belle and Sebastian's "If You're Feeling Sinister" with Jon Ronson

    Published: 4/3/2025
  8. Walter Martin on Wilco, Bruce, Outkast, and Donovan (Rapid Fire)

    Published: 3/28/2025
  9. Paul Simon's "Graceland" with Malcolm Gladwell

    Published: 3/21/2025
  10. Vampire Weekend's "Modern Vampires Of The City" with Amanda Petrusich (Live from On Air Fest)

    Published: 3/4/2025
  11. Modest Mouse's "The Lonesome Crowded West" with Kevin Morby

    Published: 2/21/2025
  12. Introducing: Summer Album/Winter Album

    Published: 2/10/2025

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On this podcast we believe that all albums are either summer albums or winter albums. But what defines them? The lyrics, the music, your personal relationship with the record? Summer Album/Winter Album is a musical debate podcast with Jody Avirgan (538, 30 for 30, Radiotopia) and Craig Finn (The Hold Steady). Each episode, Jody and Craig offer their opening arguments, and then with the help of a guest, explore one of the greatest records of all time. Then: a verdict from the artist. New episodes twice a month.